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Title: Email server problem
Post by: 2pmedia on September 27, 2017, 02:21:40 am
Hi,

I have a problem with the emails sent by osclass.
They are always marked as SPAM by any user who receives them.
I therefore wanted to use our Google suite email server and provided the details via the admin.
But nothing changed by that, still the emails are marked as SPAM.

Then I changed the configuration of the email server details on purpose to wrong details.
But my osclass still sends emails to the users, regardless what I provide as SMTP server.

From there I guess there is like a backup email sending like php sendmail or something like that ?
And I guess this backup is sending all the time my emails which leads to the SPAM classification ?

So how can I make which sending method for my emails osclass is using ?
Title: Re: Email server problem
Post by: Liath on September 27, 2017, 02:27:13 am
I had this problem earlier too, because i forgot to set the "Reverse DNS-Entry" for my host. So all mails couldn't verified and was marked as spam.
Title: Re: Email server problem
Post by: 2pmedia on September 27, 2017, 12:22:11 pm
Yes, but my question is how the emails are send by osclass.
No matter what I enter as smtp server (even wrong details) the systems sends emails.
So how are they sent if not through my SMTP server ?

Title: Re: Email server problem
Post by: marius-ciclistu on September 27, 2017, 12:28:12 pm
In my case, I had to change some files in which the email osclass@ or @osclass.org apears(I can't remember which version)
Title: Re: Email server problem
Post by: Aficionado on September 27, 2017, 12:41:03 pm
Yes, but my question is how the emails are send by osclass.
No matter what I enter as smtp server (even wrong details) the systems sends emails.
So how are they sent if not through my SMTP server ?

They are send the way you tell Osclass to do so.

What you say, can't happen (Osclass to ignore the settings).
Title: Re: Email server problem
Post by: 2pmedia on September 27, 2017, 01:34:35 pm
But it happens, I put in total bullshit as SMTP details the system sends emails.
It also sent emails after clean installation BEFORE I ever entered any smtp details.

That's why I am guessing there should be something else like sendmail or something ?
Title: Re: Email server problem
Post by: Aficionado on September 27, 2017, 01:37:26 pm
But it happens, I put in total bullshit as SMTP details the system sends emails.
It also sent emails after clean installation BEFORE I ever entered any smtp details.

That's why I am guessing there should be something else like sendmail or something ?

Nope. Nothing else is there. Just your settings.
Title: Re: Email server problem
Post by: marius-ciclistu on September 27, 2017, 02:00:32 pm
In my case I did not touch the email setings in admin after install and all it's working good with sendmail.
Look into your files for osclass@ or @osclass.
Maybe that is why you are badged as spam.
Title: Re: Email server problem
Post by: 2pmedia on September 27, 2017, 03:02:54 pm
In my case I did not touch the email setings in admin after install and all it's working good with sendmail.
Look into your files for osclass@ or @osclass.
Maybe that is why you are badged as spam.

So there is something else than my SMTP settings.
How can I control if the system uses my (external) SMTP server or sendmail ?
Title: Re: Email server problem
Post by: Aficionado on September 27, 2017, 03:07:46 pm
In my case I did not touch the email setings in admin after install and all it's working good with sendmail.
Look into your files for osclass@ or @osclass.
Maybe that is why you are badged as spam.

So there is something else than my SMTP settings.
How can I control if the system uses my (external) SMTP server or sendmail ?

Guys what are you talking about ? What hidden mail settings are you searching for ?

There are NONE.




Title: Re: Email server problem
Post by: 2pmedia on September 27, 2017, 03:16:02 pm
Ok, but how can you explain then that after a clean install without providing any mail server details the systems sends emails successfully ?
Title: Re: Email server problem
Post by: Aficionado on September 27, 2017, 03:17:45 pm
And we are talking for all that, without knowing what kind of setup is that. Local, hosted, what kind of hosted, who sends the emails, what kind of emails are flagged as spam and what they contain.

Instead of that, you search how Osclass secretly send emails out, overlaping the settings ?

 ::)
Title: Re: Email server problem
Post by: Aficionado on September 27, 2017, 03:18:38 pm
Ok, but how can you explain then that after a clean install without providing any mail server details the systems sends emails successfully ?

Dude, i don't believe in magic, sorry.

Read my above reply and let us know the details.
Title: Re: Email server problem
Post by: marius-ciclistu on September 27, 2017, 03:22:24 pm
I think osclass uses the host's settings. If you look in emails.php  it uses sendmail.
Title: Re: Email server problem
Post by: Aficionado on September 27, 2017, 03:28:00 pm
I think osclass uses the host's settings. If you look in emails.php  it uses sendmail.

But the OP wrote:

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But it happens, I put in total bullshit as SMTP details the system sends emails.

and that just CAN'T HAPPEN.
Title: Re: Email server problem
Post by: marius-ciclistu on September 27, 2017, 03:31:08 pm
:) there are many topics related to gmail server settings not working around, so I don't know how those setings work. All I know is that if you leave them as they are, all is working ok with the host mail settins.
Title: Re: Email server problem
Post by: Aficionado on September 27, 2017, 03:33:38 pm
:) there are many topics related to gmail server settings not working around, so I don't know how those setings work. All I know is that if you leave them as they are, all is working ok with the host mail settins.

The posted wrote that either gmail or not, same problem.

Title: Re: Email server problem
Post by: 2pmedia on September 27, 2017, 03:33:59 pm
I think for sendmail you don't need any smtp details
Title: Re: Email server problem
Post by: Aficionado on September 27, 2017, 03:35:38 pm
I think for sendmail you don't need any smtp details

It depends of what kind of hosting you use. In some cases locahost is free to use without any credentials, in other more secure hosting (or if the mail server is not in the same box), you must authenticate.

Title: Re: Email server problem
Post by: 2pmedia on September 27, 2017, 03:37:41 pm
So can we conclude there is another way osclass sends it mails if you don't fill the SMTP mail settings in the admin, right ?
It uses then the hoster sendmail function where no details are needed at all. (at my server)


Title: Re: Email server problem
Post by: Aficionado on September 27, 2017, 03:40:55 pm
So can we conclude there is another way osclass sends it mails if you don't fill the SMTP mail settings in the admin, right ?
It uses then the hoster sendmail function where no details are needed at all. (at my server)

Only if Custom Server and localhost is used.

The other you say (you put crap in settings and still works) can't happen. Also gmail is not recomended, we have talked about that in these forums several times. Not sure why Osclass still has that option.

Title: Re: Email server problem
Post by: marius-ciclistu on September 27, 2017, 03:43:09 pm
I think for sendmail you don't need any smtp details

It depends of what kind of hosting you use. In some cases locahost is free to use without any credentials, in other more secure hosting (or if the mail server is not in the same box), you must authenticate.

This is true. I have 2 clients that are experiencing problems because the sendmail doesn't work on wp. Until now the hosters didn't solve the situations.
Title: Re: Email server problem
Post by: 2pmedia on September 27, 2017, 04:00:14 pm

Only if Custom Server and localhost is used.

The other you say (you put crap in settings and still works) can't happen. Also gmail is not recomended, we have talked about that in these forums several times. Not sure why Osclass still has that option.

Trust me, it works.
I tried to disable the email function by renaming the gmail smtp server to smtp.gmail.con and that works just fine.
The emails are still sent, but not through gmail I guess
Title: Re: Email server problem
Post by: Aficionado on September 27, 2017, 04:10:03 pm


Trust me, it works.
I tried to disable the email function by renaming the gmail smtp server to smtp.gmail.con and that works just fine.
The emails are still sent, but not through gmail I guess

No i do not trust you (what you say that is), sorry.

Anyway, this is getting a hairy topic, good luck with your site.

Title: Re: Email server problem
Post by: 2pmedia on September 27, 2017, 08:34:38 pm

No i do not trust you (what you say that is), sorry.

Anyway, this is getting a hairy topic, good luck with your site.

Ok, then trust the other guys here that posted that their email are sent quite fine without providing any SMTP details ;-)
Title: Re: Email server problem
Post by: marius-ciclistu on September 27, 2017, 11:25:47 pm

No i do not trust you (what you say that is), sorry.

Anyway, this is getting a hairy topic, good luck with your site.

Ok, then trust the other guys here that posted that their email are sent quite fine without providing any SMTP details ;-)

I was talking in my behalf regarding the emails. I have a shared host, so I'm not the one that maintains the server. Sorry I forgot to mention that.