just wondering

[Aficionado]

teseo - I tried to do this a few months ago and does not seem a good solution, because,  began to appear tons of 404 errors in webmaster with this pages. I removed the modification from code and the 404 errors slowly disappeared.

I don't think so. What nofollow has to do with 404 ? Nofollow means don't follow something. What you say is that "something" doesn't exist. Well, it exists for me.

[Veromon]

Just try on your website test and you will see. In my case, began to appear 404 error's with pages that have not been never in my site, like www. sitename. com/forsale/23. With nofollow setup for pages, i don't have errors in webmaster, i don't know why, but certainly - the programmer put this line special to avoid these errors.

[Aficionado]

Just try on your website test and you will see. In my case, began to appear 404 error's with pages that have not been never in my site, like www. sitename. com/forsale/23. With nofollow setup for pages, i don't have errors in webmaster, i don't know why, but certainly - the programmer put this line special to avoid these errors.

Again, nothing to do with 404 errors. What you say is simply untrue and has no logic.

[Veromon]

can you explain why?

[Aficionado]

can you explain why?

First of all we are talking about nofollow in PAGINATION. Apparently you talk about some other nofollow.

So, when pagination is needed it means that there can't be a 404. Nothing else needs to be said.

The 404 you see are from EMPTY categories that Osclass (for some reason) returns a HEADER HTTP 404.

[Veromon]

it may be my mistake, Teseo may have an answer for my. I have removed other line:

on line 62
$this->nofollow           = isset($params['nofollow']) ? $params['nofollow'] : true;

Teseo recommend
on line 121
  $attrs = array();
            /* if( $this->nofollow ) {
                $attrs['rel'] = 'nofollow';
            } */

            if( isset($pages['first']) ) {

so, it is possible to be my fault because i have removed other line

Thank you Aficionado, after all, we learn from mistakes!

[dev101]

There is another possibility here, say one month you have 50 items (2 pages) and bots index p1 and p2. Next month you have only few items in the category, thus p2 does not exist anymore. This may be a source for 404 error.

[Veromon]

At this i thought my self, but, in my site ads never expire and my first thought was my modification in pagination.

[Aficionado]

There is another possibility here, say one month you have 50 items (2 pages) and bots index p1 and p2. Next month you have only few items in the category, thus p2 does not exist anymore. This may be a source for 404 error.

Well this also goes for an ad (item.php). When expired or removed (deleted).

That is what 404 is for. Totally normal.

[Veromon]

Well honestly, my website is new, i have a few ads posted and i don't think that have been deleted by users...i hope to find a proper response soon.
 At topic, in 2014, i don't found normaly to have 404 errors in webmaster, my old classified website was using Wordpress with a plugin that automatically redirect deleted pages/ads to index.  We should use automation for staff like this.

By the way, i recommend of those with 404 errors to use XENU, is a free soft with that you can see dead links before google.

[Aficionado]

Well honestly, my website is new, i have a few ads posted and i don't think that have been deleted by users...i hope to find a proper response soon.
 At topic, in 2014, i don't found normaly to have 404 errors in webmaster, my old classified website was using Wordpress with a plugin that automatically redirect deleted pages/ads to index.  We should use automation for staff like this.

By the way, i recommend of those with 404 errors to use XENU, is a free soft with that you can see dead links before google.

Osclass returns a HTTP HEADER 404 (and NOT A WEBPAGE with 404 not found) when a category is empty. Is what i say clear ?

It is extremely easy to see from where all those 404 come from. google web master will tell you.

[_CONEJO]

why pagination from categories or locations (2,3,4 etc) uses nofollow attribut, and the results from searches comes with all link's setup with nofollow.  I just don't understant, is beyond me, i observed most of the big classifieds website's ...and no one uses these settings. Our platform Osclass use a different structure and requires this?

Hello.

The answer is actually very simple:

Osclass script takes a LOT of decisions itself, instead of leting US (the webmasters) decide how to handle things. What you mention is a small sample of HOW BAD OSCLASS IS IN THE EYES of Search Engines.

An other funny thing is that Osclass returns 404 http header when a CATEGORY IS EMPTY. So new websites will NEVER be indexed for anything.

I could write here a lot of things like that, but there is no meaning to do so.

We want to make Osclass easy to use, so some options have a default behavior. nofollow links on pagination could be changed with a simple parameter when the pagination is called, that's easy. I changed it now, so the default will be to not include nofollow.


Please, continue with the list so I could fix any other issues that are bugging you

About 404, I did what I was told to as my knowledge is limited in SEO

[Aficionado]

We want to make Osclass easy to use, so some options have a default behavior. nofollow links on pagination could be changed with a simple parameter when the pagination is called, that's easy. I changed it now, so the default will be to not include nofollow.


Please, continue with the list so I could fix any other issues that are bugging you

About 404, I did what I was told to as my knowledge is limited in SEO

Well this is kinda dangerous, because a very few people can change some php code and make things work like they want. Most of people have no idea about it.

So, for example, when a new guy has a new Osclas website, empty or with 10 ads, and it is not even indexed (because of 404 for example), after a while he dumps Osclass.

Me, i can digg in the code and with the help from people here, i can modify Osclass behavior. But again, most people don't do that.

I have said before that some very-very BASIC SEO is needed for Osclass. You have told us many times that it will be totally reviewed, a year+ passed and nothing happened. I'm not complaining, i FULLY understand and support Osclass. But this is a fact.

* All Categories and subcategories SHOULD HAVE custom TITLES tag. By the webmasters. <TITLE> tag is the MOST IMPORTANT thing in the eyes of search engines, and that HASN'T been changed for years. Nothing else comes close. In general your TITLES strategy has to be changed and improved, especially for MULTICOUNTRY websites (they can't rank for anything).

To give you an idea: i run a travel forum, a small one, very niche specific. But never made any real money from google/adsense. At some point i started to MODIFY the Thread Titles (the users posted) adding KEYWORDS from a list of high paying ones. After a month or so, i started to rank for them, and now i make 1/5 of my living from it.

* Never understood (and you failed to explain) why we can't FULL breadcrumbs. This is a great seo asset also.

As i have posted before, just take a look how GUMTREE does all those things. It is so simple. Why REinvent the wheel.


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[dev101]

Hi Aficionado,
can you explain this bit with an example:

* All Categories and subcategories SHOULD HAVE custom TITLES tag. By the webmasters. <TITLE> tag is the MOST IMPORTANT thing in the eyes of search engines, and that HASN'T been changed for years. Nothing else comes close. In general your TITLES strategy has to be changed and improved, especially for MULTICOUNTRY websites (they can't rank for anything).

I think every page has a unique title with category name - or do I miss something?

* Never understood (and you failed to explain) why we can't FULL breadcrumbs. This is a great seo asset also.

Yeah, this would be great, currently breadcrumbs show only one level above plus home, thus using subsubcats is not fully supported.

Thanks

[Aficionado]

Sure.

A real example from one of my websites:

The Main Category is Buy & Sell so the Title is

Code: [Select]

<title>Sell &amp; Buy  | Website.com</title>

A Subcategory is Art & Collectibles so the Title is

Code: [Select]

<title>Art &amp; Collectibles  | Website.com</title>
Does that tell you something ? Can you GUESS for what COUNTRY ? No. And it is Sell and Buy as a store, as classifieds, yard sales, what ?

OSclass takes automatically the Title tag from the cat/subcat name.

So what i wanted to have as Title for my above 2 example:

Art & Collectibles Classifieds for Jamaica | Website.com

or whatever i want.