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Veromon

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just wondering
« on: May 14, 2014, 02:54:05 pm »
why pagination from categories or locations (2,3,4 etc) uses nofollow attribut, and the results from searches comes with all link's setup with nofollow.  I just don't understant, is beyond me, i observed most of the big classifieds website's ...and no one uses these settings. Our platform Osclass use a different structure and requires this?

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Re: just wondering
« Reply #1 on: May 14, 2014, 07:07:06 pm »
thats a good question. what theme are you referring too? I believe it can be changed easily enough on the href itself

teseo

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Re: just wondering
« Reply #2 on: May 14, 2014, 07:22:28 pm »
Hi,

Indeed it's something that should be fixed in all themes.

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Veromon

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Re: just wondering
« Reply #3 on: May 14, 2014, 09:29:21 pm »
design - i use bender. I know, is easy to put in front the code // or to remove the line. The question is, why was added by the programmer? guess that has a purpose.


teseo - is possible to be necessary, but i think we need to hear the opinion of the developer.

I'm stuk here, i hope to get an answer and pass over :)

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Re: just wondering
« Reply #4 on: May 14, 2014, 11:31:59 pm »
why pagination from categories or locations (2,3,4 etc) uses nofollow attribut, and the results from searches comes with all link's setup with nofollow.  I just don't understant, is beyond me, i observed most of the big classifieds website's ...and no one uses these settings. Our platform Osclass use a different structure and requires this?

Hello.

The answer is actually very simple:

Osclass script takes a LOT of decisions itself, instead of leting US (the webmasters) decide how to handle things. What you mention is a small sample of HOW BAD OSCLASS IS IN THE EYES of Search Engines.

An other funny thing is that Osclass returns 404 http header when a CATEGORY IS EMPTY. So new websites will NEVER be indexed for anything.

I could write here a lot of things like that, but there is no meaning to do so.


 

Veromon

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Re: just wondering
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2014, 12:07:54 am »
yea ...pages with 404 response are already classic :) however, this can be easely controled because you will need only 50-100 ads. The question is, what to do with lots of 404 found in google webmaster for links like subcategory + city ? and we all have lots of subcategories and cities in site :P 

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Re: just wondering
« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2014, 06:00:01 pm »
I must scratch my head and wonder if google doesn't already know how to handle a classifieds site. I'm sure osclass isn't the first classifieds, and it would stand to reason that the almighty google must bend to us(new trends) every once in a while.

the rules will be the same - if you get visitors  & if they stay on your site, you will rank. pretty simple.

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Re: just wondering
« Reply #7 on: May 20, 2014, 03:22:17 am »
Nobody knows what google algo does and how it works. Everybody is guessing and making assumptions by trial and error. Als google algo for rank is changing continiously, so ...

But i can tell you this: i was running the same website from 2007 until early 2013, using an ASP (Microsoft asp) website. I was ranking like crazy for whatever i wanted to rank for, with whatever Categories and subcategories TITLES i wanted etc etc.

Since i switched to Osclass, i have a modern website, with all modern technologies, that can't rank for anything. I'm working on this, heavily modifying Jay's plugin MetaEdit and so far-so good.

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Re: just wondering
« Reply #8 on: May 20, 2014, 09:50:15 pm »
I have to ask then...why didn't you change back? was it broken?

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Re: just wondering
« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2014, 11:09:21 pm »
I have to ask then...why didn't you change back? was it broken?

Well i stayed with it as long as i could. The company behind it was closed, the support was stopped and nothing happened. Also it was commercial so i had to pay to add a domain.


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Re: just wondering
« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2014, 11:11:53 pm »
oh bummer-   :'(

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Re: just wondering
« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2014, 01:26:43 pm »
why pagination from categories or locations (2,3,4 etc) uses nofollow attribut, and the results from searches comes with all link's setup with nofollow.  I just don't understant, is beyond me, i observed most of the big classifieds website's ...and no one uses these settings. Our platform Osclass use a different structure and requires this?

I tried to find where is this "nofollow" is added in pagination, i just can't find it. Only one i found is in htmlpurifier. I use modern theme and there is no such option in that, so it must be somewhere else.

Any ideas where is that added ?

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Re: just wondering
« Reply #12 on: May 26, 2014, 01:35:58 pm »
why pagination from categories or locations (2,3,4 etc) uses nofollow attribut, and the results from searches comes with all link's setup with nofollow.  I just don't understant, is beyond me, i observed most of the big classifieds website's ...and no one uses these settings. Our platform Osclass use a different structure and requires this?

My favorite classifieds website (for ideas and SEO) is gumtree.com, so i checked the categories pagination, for example:

http://www.gumtree.com/peugeot

and there is NOT any NOFOLLOW in there.

Same goes for OLX.com (a crappy service but with great SEO).


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Re: just wondering
« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2014, 01:55:19 pm »
Hi,

I tried to find where is this "nofollow" is added in pagination, i just can't find it. Only one i found is in htmlpurifier. I use modern theme and there is no such option in that, so it must be somewhere else.

It is added in oc-includes/osclass/classes/Pagination.php.

In line 121 (Osclass 3.3.2) replace this:

Code: [Select]
            $attrs = array();
            if( $this->nofollow ) {
                $attrs['rel'] = 'nofollow';
            }

            if( isset($pages['first']) ) {

with:

Code: [Select]
            $attrs = array();
            /* if( $this->nofollow ) {
                $attrs['rel'] = 'nofollow';
            } */

            if( isset($pages['first']) ) {

With this nofollow attribute there, search engine bots will never reach beyond the first page of results. You'd have to rely only on sitemaps to inform about the existence of more ads, and as far as I know search engines prioritize what they find on normal navigation. ???

(As always, remember that modifications in core files need to be re-done when Osclass is upgraded).

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Veromon

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Re: just wondering
« Reply #14 on: June 01, 2014, 07:28:33 pm »
teseo - I tried to do this a few months ago and does not seem a good solution, because,  began to appear tons of 404 errors in webmaster with this pages. I removed the modification from code and the 404 errors slowly disappeared.