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_CONEJO

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Re: New forum rules
« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2015, 06:19:16 pm »
I will try to reply

frosticek
No, you should not duplicate those threads, we want to return to a support-only forums. Giving/asking support for your theme/plugin is ok, selling them is not.


Montekhristo
We have been implementing changes in the way we handle the submission to the market and we do the reviews. It could happen that we miss your product, we made mistakes, we try to fix them. At this moment there's no file associate with your plugin, please re-upload it. (if you uploaded the plugin with a previous user, then there's only one file uploaded and not a second one).


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All markets have similar apps/themes/plugins/products, take a look at envato, google play, itunes,... we do not allow piracy and we do not allow copies, if the same solution is reached by two different codes, then both could be published. Following your reasoning we should only allow one and only one payments plugin for example, or only one plugin to share your listing on social media. Well, one plugin may do something different, another could be more configurable,... those are different options for the users.

If anyone has doubts or proof that one plugin/theme is copy of another, please contact us. We'll review them.

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Re: New forum rules
« Reply #16 on: December 03, 2015, 06:31:02 pm »
@_CONEJO
So remove links only and support can continue, as @Drizzle told. In all threads is very useful information, people cannot react on those if thread is locked.

To design, I believe it would be much more user friendly to change LIST of products to GALLERY view ;)

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Re: New forum rules
« Reply #17 on: December 03, 2015, 06:33:59 pm »
Locking all those threads is an EXTREMELY BAD IDEA.

I will HURT OSCLASS.



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Re: New forum rules
« Reply #18 on: December 03, 2015, 07:37:42 pm »
@frosticek

Understand but we have to give clarification from our side.

I will not be accused of copy ...

I said that I had been first to develop a plugin.

@_Conejo

I've said before, OSClass is a very small market in proportion to envato even much smaller.

Not comprarable OSClass Market with the popularity and size Envato market, or Codecanyon.

For example, Envato WordPress, two similar themes, both sold thousands of downloads

OSClass not know ... but being a small market, there should be prioritized.

Thus, who develops a commercial product, may have a return, if your product is of interest to the public.

If we who have much similar as there are in envato, nobody serve working on a plugin or theme for a few dollars.

Envato 1 developer, with only one theme published over 9000 sales with a price of 58 dolars ...

The difference is huge, I think that those who spent time in OSClass, deserve a conscious administered market rules and a section on the forums for jobs as it had until today.

But if we are going to limit market, then do it well and fast.

Saludos !

PD, _conejo ; i uploaded one more time facebook comments in OSClass market Please look at it.


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Re: New forum rules
« Reply #19 on: December 03, 2015, 10:13:58 pm »
I always had this thought ...

few sites that will run OSClass classifieds.

Few sites have obtained considerable success

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Re: New forum rules
« Reply #20 on: December 04, 2015, 01:33:54 am »
Don't focus too much on 'problems', plenty of opportunities if you're willing to see..... 8)

Also, it could be way worse, Osclass is one of the last accessible Open Source online markets.
As mentioned by many others there are other scripts but they are far more costly and then there is the WP plugin/theme but hey, it's WP.

;)

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Re: New forum rules
« Reply #21 on: December 04, 2015, 09:28:38 am »
@SmaRTeY
"Also, it could be way worse..."

So right now is getting better?

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Re: New forum rules
« Reply #22 on: December 04, 2015, 11:16:51 am »
What kind of strategy is that when  developer offer support for his not listed paid plugin on market plugin on this forum ? He has no control of user reply  and feedback,and after 1-15 sells ,he has to deal with tons of "negative" posts .
Do post your plugins on market ,or increase your team , build better plugins & themes ,offer better support , and control everything , from sales to user feedback .
Developing paid products is not one man job !

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Re: New forum rules
« Reply #23 on: December 04, 2015, 01:44:24 pm »
@Web-Media
Actually part of "He has no control of user reply" is very important, as you cannot remove negative comments or block users if problems, but you need to solve them.
If you have own forums, you can freely remove all negative comments and block users you do not like.

On the other site, if people place negative comments on your product in market, there is no way you could react on that. Even comment is not true (for example user is not satisfied because you did not do custom development for him that was not paid or dealt, or user do not have idea how to use osclass or osclass plugin, you need to contact osclass to remove such comment).

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Re: New forum rules
« Reply #24 on: December 04, 2015, 02:14:35 pm »
Yeap. But in own forum & market the coments are focused  on plugin(theme) bug by bug,issue hy isue There is no 200 related post like here on forum defeloper xxx is bad . Developer xxx make me wait . Developer has brown eyes ,y'll not buy anymor his products .

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Re: New forum rules
« Reply #25 on: December 04, 2015, 03:15:34 pm »
@Web-Media
You mix different things, threads were locked because there is link to external market (no idea why they simply do not remove link), so what are you talking about will be still there unchanged.

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Re: New forum rules
« Reply #26 on: December 04, 2015, 03:31:06 pm »
Exactly that . That link brings the posts mentioned . Be sure that if developer is pro and handle his market plugins very well he does not need to advertise his work here .
He could mention his paid works inside plugins on market.
That should be allowed in a pro ,well organized manner

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Re: New forum rules
« Reply #27 on: December 04, 2015, 03:31:59 pm »
there are hundreds of post that have never been answered ...

What do i mean by this ?

that if we remove all interaction that developers give every day for products that are not in the market, this forum began to die.

countless posts who died in the first message, that have never been answered, nor OSClass equipment, or by any participant.

I believe that from the moment that there is a forum, script developers have an obligation to keep and provide answers to users.

Imagine that we put on our web forum and does not respond to users.
So to put the forum?

I've seen dozens of participants throughout this time, they began and ended with OSClass using wordpress, clasipress or WooCommerce ...

This is the bad support provided by the team OSClass.

I clarify! it is not a complaint, it is a simple appreciation or very personal point of view.

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Re: New forum rules
« Reply #28 on: December 04, 2015, 10:30:43 pm »
Depending how you look at change......yes :)
@SmaRTeY
"Also, it could be way worse..."

So right now is getting better?

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Re: New forum rules
« Reply #29 on: December 04, 2015, 11:32:40 pm »
I always had this thought ...

few sites that will run OSClass classifieds.

Few sites have obtained considerable success
 
 You are on the wrong  path man . Success is not one man job  but a team's work .
 here take a look  here :
   http://es.wallapop.com/
and here :
http://es.wallapop.com/item/dark-souls-prepare-to-die-edition-ps3-47836675
 (no matter what cms is behind ,  an osclass customized theme can reproduce that )
can you achive that ?
Hell yes . Simple . In 3 steps (2 months)=> install osclass =>customize a theme => do   a smart app .
 but .... you will get this high up ?  ?
 check this  : https://www.google.es/search?q=wallapop+start+up&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gws_rd=cr&ei=zs83Vv_3CcOvad_dh8gC .
or this (translate  it  )
http://marketing4ecommerce.net/wallapop-startup-40-millones-dolares/
or use a  google search
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wallapop start upsolve this puzzle and ask yourself  why do you not having same results ? 
you have all the necessary tools  !
:) to be mean ... the owners of wallapop  should post his website on forum showcase !  :)  ;D ;D ;D
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