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Re: Osclass project is dead?
« Reply #15 on: November 04, 2016, 01:38:06 pm »

My Plugins uploaded in februar this year was not reviewed up to today. They all are free and i think the developer are more looking on paid plugins than on the free ones.


I wanted to help others with my work, but if it is not needed, i also can delete it and work for me alone


Well it seems that what you post is not true, Osclass team responded to all your plugin uploads.



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Re: Osclass project is dead?
« Reply #16 on: November 04, 2016, 04:44:29 pm »
That's simply not true, we reviewed your plugins back in February, we didn't heard back from you. Please see the image:


hey _CONEJO


i never had any message or email received from you, have looked so many times for the status and wrote it here different times... where are this message?

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Re: Osclass project is dead?
« Reply #17 on: November 04, 2016, 05:54:14 pm »
That's simply not true, we reviewed your plugins back in February, we didn't heard back from you. Please see the image:


hey _CONEJO


i never had any message or email received from you, have looked so many times for the status and wrote it here different times... where are this message?

Not there, we sent you some emails

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Re: Osclass project is dead?
« Reply #18 on: November 04, 2016, 06:35:55 pm »
can you resend this mails please?

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Re: Osclass project is dead?
« Reply #19 on: November 04, 2016, 06:38:47 pm »
re-sent all of them

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Re: Osclass project is dead?
« Reply #20 on: November 04, 2016, 06:40:23 pm »
got it... thanks

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Re: Osclass project is dead?
« Reply #21 on: November 04, 2016, 08:03:01 pm »
I'd really like to see an update too. For what it looks, it seems there are not too many contributors to the project, and the osclass developers did an amazing job at start but went really cold after it's initial phase. They're more focused on the osclass market now.

Considering osclass is a free software,  i really can't complain too much..

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Re: Osclass project is dead?
« Reply #22 on: November 05, 2016, 11:28:29 am »
I'd really like to see an update too. For what it looks, it seems there are not too many contributors to the project, and the osclass developers did an amazing job at start but went really cold after it's initial phase. They're more focused on the osclass market now.

Considering osclass is a free software,  i really can't complain too much..

Osclass is free to a certain degree. Beyond that, i doubt that any real business would not use payed plugins and theme that generates income for the osclass developers. So it is free to start with and you end up paying more and more, depending on how complex your project becomes. That is the case at least for me, i started from free and ended by purchasing themes, custom works and plugins worth so far around 300 $. Is disappointing to see that osclass dies slowly because that translate in time and money lost in the end.

Regarding the issue with the emails from Liath, why was necessary to send them to a email instead of using the built in osclass account function? That would avoid any issue from sending - receiving emails via e-mails.

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Re: Osclass project is dead?
« Reply #23 on: November 05, 2016, 11:45:22 am »


Regarding the issue with the emails from Liath, why was necessary to send them to a email instead of using the built in osclass account function? That would avoid any issue from sending - receiving emails via e-mails.
There are several reasons, at the time of the emails, the in-market messages did not allow to upload/share images, and code pasting/sharing is "limited", the text are is too narrow and without format. An email is better option because you could include images, links, formatted text, code,...
« Last Edit: November 05, 2016, 11:47:49 am by _CONEJO »

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Re: Osclass project is dead?
« Reply #24 on: November 05, 2016, 05:15:16 pm »
@osclass Why are you not contribute the laith's free plugin, you can fix and upload it market why you  restrict the free plugin if it has some bugs,  or allow as share plugins on this forum so we can contribute the free plugins.

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« Reply #25 on: November 05, 2016, 05:22:36 pm »
@osclass Why are you not contribute the laith's free plugin, you can fix and upload it market why you  restrict the free plugin if it has some bugs,  or allow as share plugins on this forum so we can contribute the free plugins.

Because osclass team want to monetize their work. This is not bad, still some moves they did apparently hurt osclass community.

But as some previously said, this is free script (and a good one) and we can't complain much. Especially since it dominates the classifieds free area (all other scripts are junk, trust me).


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Re: Osclass project is dead?
« Reply #26 on: November 05, 2016, 06:14:42 pm »
@osclass Why are you not contribute the laith's free plugin, you can fix and upload it market why you  restrict the free plugin if it has some bugs,  or allow as share plugins on this forum so we can contribute the free plugins.

Oh, we DO contribute, we review them, we tell the author the issues we found and how to solve them (in some cases), we tell them ideas or improvements we think the developer could include in their  plugins or themes, even sometimes, we send the fix to the author.

But there are other reasons:

- That a plugin (or theme) is free or open source doesn't mean you could modify and redistribute it. Most plugins doesn't include a free or open source license (apache, lgpl, gpl, mit, bsd,...) so we (and you) are not authorized to modify and/or redistribute the plugins (or themes). (In this case, none of Liath's plugins carry a license).
- It takes a huge amount of time to understand what a plugin does and how it does it, so why not contact the author about the issue and let him fix it? It should be easier for him
- There's the "fork" problem. Someone release a plugin, we "fix" it or way, but later the original author release another fix, you now have two plugins that are almost equal, which one should you use? (Think of this like openoffice vs libreoffice for example)
- Sometimes, we do not share the vision/objective of the author or think that other things are more important. For example a plugin that could be made using custom fields
- Sometimes, we already offer the functionality of said plugins via our own plugins, the core or other people's plugins. Like Liath's "vote and review" plugin that was copied from our plugin "rating" (not cool), or "jQuery Wysiwyg editor" which is a similar idea to our "rich edit" plugin

We had limited resources and time, we could not "fix" every plugin we review (in some cases, plugins submitted to review don't even install).

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Re: Osclass project is dead?
« Reply #27 on: November 05, 2016, 06:59:37 pm »
Osclass is free to a certain degree. Beyond that, i doubt that any real business would not use payed plugins and theme that generates income for the osclass developers. So it is free to start with and you end up paying more and more, depending on how complex your project becomes. That is the case at least for me, i started from free and ended by purchasing themes, custom works and plugins worth so far around 300 $. Is disappointing to see that osclass dies slowly because that translate in time and money lost in the end.

Regarding the issue with the emails from Liath, why was necessary to send them to a email instead of using the built in osclass account function? That would avoid any issue from sending - receiving emails via e-mails.

I very much agree with you, but you see, the osclass team TOO need to make money. Selling plugins in one of the ways they money from the free script.
Having that said, it's not great from the osclass team to COMPLETELY focus on making money via the market, and should improve the script too.
I wish there could be a 'better' balance on both sides - the free script, and the paid plugins.
« Last Edit: November 05, 2016, 07:04:05 pm by stevejohnson »

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Re: Osclass project is dead?
« Reply #28 on: November 05, 2016, 07:07:54 pm »
Osclass team makes money right now by developing and selling their own themes and plugins AND OLSO by charging any other sale from other developers with 30 % (if i know this properly- correct me if i am wrong). If that 30% is correct, do yourself some math and see how much they earned already like that. The point here is not how much money do they make (after me they should make millions if possible) but keep osclass alive and improve it constant. Do not let it stagnate for 1 year or more just because you want more and more money and you spend all your time with development of payed themes plugins.

After me, they should not develop payed themes plugins as long as they get money from other developers that sale via their market. It is a conflict of interest.

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Re: Osclass project is dead?
« Reply #29 on: November 05, 2016, 07:28:52 pm »
For me the only problem Osclass suffers is the fact they ignore what their community wants/needs. They have a private agenda and follow it. Simple as that. They don't care about anything else.

Also i find their attitude a bit snobish to us at times, still this is a well know problem with devs. Wordpress also suffers from that.