Stop ‘Osclass Project’ dying

[WEBmods]

Can someone find the topic about removing ties from Osclass site to Market? I knew they talked how the site was slow and the solution was to remove Market code.

[pixelpadre]

I discussed this end 1or 2 years ago and I said that giants like olx etc will not allow a free script to endanger their bussines. If this is the case, then the forum will not be shared/donated etc.

These giants of innovation are literally dying and leaving giant voids as talent and documentation fade away.  This is a trend that many of us already are aware of.  Anything open source is like tumbleweed blowing in the dust.  Big business does not need to buy up any these innovations.  They nearly need to play the waiting game.  Many of these programmers started with basic html skills.  Virtually anyone could start up a script with little skill.  But after 20 years the entire internetscape has become unrecognizable as hackers see how easy it is to take down the majority of websites.  Big business is rounding up phd's to handle their long term corporate website planning.  Years ago, one guy could know everything.  Now, you need one guy for every aspect of an e commerce website.  ie...SSL. php, mysql, css, apache, firewalls, encryption, two step authentication, ipv6, the list goes on and on and on.  One guy cant do it all anymore.

Places like Zencart have lost many of their founders to age and sickness.  Centos CWP forum is dead, one post every couple of days.  And if you havent heard, the founder of OpenClipArt.org was murdered by the Syrian regime. So Openclipart is now dead for entirely different reasons than the normal reasons.

The future of the internet is not so Rosie in my humble opinion.  Just as in the social world, there will be the haves and the havenots.  The bloom has fallen off the rose for sure.  Places like FB are the real threat for classifieds software.  I use FB marketplace way more than anywhere else.  Not many people are even aware of Marketplace.   So they (FB) will experience tremendous growth in the years ahead. 

And all of my best case scenarios are based on a global growth assumption.  If war, or recessions start happening then the internet will really suffer.

Even the big fortune 500 companies will face extreme shortages in talent. 

The end of osclass is just the beginning.

[Dimal]

I don't think they will shut down the forum soon. That would not be appropriate.

You never know... We all hope they won't.

Damn, I hate this "last reply was 30 secs ago".

I mean, they will not suddenly close it. As i said they could make it READ ONLY and put it somewhere for a couple years. After 2 years there will be of no value.

[pixelpadre]

I will post stuff here: https://github.com/webmods-croatia/love-osclass

I already see that you set out to help the community. It's nice to have them all in one place. Good Job! Keep it up.

I am going to download onto my hard drive as much as I could from the Osclass Marketplace. My only concern is that without this forum, support will be lost for this script unless someone comes forward to establish a similar forum.


Regards

I am trying to do as much as I can. I have 2 Osclass sites and I maintain and make plugins for a lot of Osclass sites...

If they decide to take the forum down, we can together make a new one... It's not a hard job.

Regards.

So you want to start a new forum?  Whats the point? NONE of the posts on the forum today are even replied to.  The forum is dead and there is no point in even thing about bringing out the paddles.

[Dimal]

Can someone find the topic about removing ties from Osclass site to Market? I knew they talked how the site was slow and the solution was to remove Market code.

I guess (!!!) Osclass Team will have the last word on that, as dev101 posted above. A final stripped Osclass release.

Or a programmer that knows Osclass could do it.

[WEBmods]

I will post stuff here: https://github.com/webmods-croatia/love-osclass

I already see that you set out to help the community. It's nice to have them all in one place. Good Job! Keep it up.

I am going to download onto my hard drive as much as I could from the Osclass Marketplace. My only concern is that without this forum, support will be lost for this script unless someone comes forward to establish a similar forum.


Regards

I am trying to do as much as I can. I have 2 Osclass sites and I maintain and make plugins for a lot of Osclass sites...

If they decide to take the forum down, we can together make a new one... It's not a hard job.

Regards.

So you want to start a new forum?  Whats the point? NONE of the posts on the forum today are even replied to.  The forum is dead and there is no point in even thing about bringing out the paddles.

NONE? I am checking the forum every day, trying to reply as much as I can... I can't reply to every topic.

[Dimal]

So you want to start a new forum?  Whats the point? NONE of the posts on the forum today are even replied to.  The forum is dead and there is no point in even thing about bringing out the paddles.

So true. What is needed is not a forum like this but a place (a forum, haha) that will gather people that care to have this project alive for a while, until the next step. Osclass or something else.

Also running a forum is not that easy. Install a forum ? yes. Running / maintaining / paying for a forum is not an easy and cheap task.

 

[WEBmods]

https://github.com/webmods-croatia/love-osclass/wiki/ - documentation taken from osclass.org will be added here.

[dev101]

Can someone find the topic about removing ties from Osclass site to Market? I knew they talked how the site was slow and the solution was to remove Market code.

It is really easy, but... for the time being I'll simply wait with that step. First, GitHub repo resolution, then mods etc.

[WEBmods]

Can someone find the topic about removing ties from Osclass site to Market? I knew they talked how the site was slow and the solution was to remove Market code.

It is really easy, but... for the time being I'll simply wait with that step. First, GitHub repo resolution, then mods etc.

Ok.

[pixelpadre]

https://killedbygoogle.com/

This is just one of the companies out there that had to shutdown projects for lack of sufficient developers.

Think about all of the other small fish in the pond.  They wont make it.

Developers make the big mistake of making their work to complex for the general public at large to implement.

Developers assume that just because they are learning every day that so are all of the secretaries, office managers and grandparents are learning too.  Thats a bigass assumption.  Secretaries, office managers and grandparents will be just as stupid in the next 20 years as they are today.

[Dimal]

https://killedbygoogle.com/

This is just one of the companies out there that had to shutdown projects for lack of sufficient developers.

Think about all of the other small fish in the pond.  They wont make it.

Developers make the big mistake of making their work to complex for the general public at large to implement.

Developers assume that just because they are learning every day that so are all of the secretaries, office managers and grandparents are learning too.  Thats a bigass assumption.  Secretaries, office managers and grandparents will be just as stupid in the next 20 years as they are today.

But from what i understand (reading here), the main problem of Osclass is not that. I have no idea what actually is.

Also why anyone from Osclass is not providing some information about all that ?

Personally i will start searching for an alternative, probably under Wordpress (because i do know Wordpress).

[dev101]

A good positive news for now, this is what I received as a Developer. Good part is in blue color:

Dear Osclass Market Developer,

We regret to inform you that the Osclass Market will be closing down on September 5th. As of that date, Market developer accounts will not be accessible. Pending sales will be settled in the upcoming months. In the event that you have support threads currently open with your users, if they request it, we will provide your email address so they can contact you. If you prefer we provide a different address for support, please reply to this email.

We would like to thank you for your effort and the trust you put in this project throughout the years. Unfortunately, we have not been able to turn this venture into a profitable business. Osclass, as a free software project, will be accessible and open to everyone as before, so we encourage you to continue developing plugins and themes for all of the users who still rely on our script.

We apologize for any inconvenience that the Osclass Market closure may cause you.

Osclass Team

So, the project will be available (on GitHub), not sure about website and forums, though.

[calinbehtuk]

Also why anyone from Osclass is not providing some information about all that ?

We would like to thank you for your effort and the trust you put in this project throughout the years. Unfortunately, we have not been able to turn this venture into a profitable business. Osclass, as a free software project, will be accessible and open to everyone as before, so we encourage you to continue developing plugins and themes for all of the users who still rely on our script.

[WEBmods]

A good positive news for now, this is what I received as a Developer. Good part is in blue color:

Dear Osclass Market Developer,

We regret to inform you that the Osclass Market will be closing down on September 5th. As of that date, Market developer accounts will not be accessible. Pending sales will be settled in the upcoming months. In the event that you have support threads currently open with your users, if they request it, we will provide your email address so they can contact you. If you prefer we provide a different address for support, please reply to this email.

We would like to thank you for your effort and the trust you put in this project throughout the years. Unfortunately, we have not been able to turn this venture into a profitable business. Osclass, as a free software project, will be accessible and open to everyone as before, so we encourage you to continue developing plugins and themes for all of the users who still rely on our script.

We apologize for any inconvenience that the Osclass Market closure may cause you.

Osclass Team

So, the website and forums will be available for the time being.

Interesting.