IMPORTANT: No news is good news! [Current state of Osclass]

[design]

if you where in the forums more often you would know   
trying to be constructive. the core, and bender should already be packed with everything and in working condition. that being said we are the ones who beta test for you and we missed some things obviously.

[_CONEJO]

Topics in the "suggestions" sub-board had a lifespan of 10 days, after 10 days, they were pushed to the second page, were they got way less visibility.

Also, there's no way (that I know) to count/sort topics by "votes", more replies on a topic doesn't mean it a most voted idea. How could I know if an idea is wanted or not by the community?


Any other idea is welcome

[SmaRTeY]

Hi Daniel,

I will be happily review and switch to any other (free) service/software. We reviewed 4-5 services at the time and choose it as the best of them.

I think most users would like to stay in one place.... the forums. To be honest I think OsClass team needs a vision regarding the roadmap of OsClass, if you are not 'the boss' who is pulling the wagon?

There should be the "OsClass road to heaven" ( ) and there are users having wishes which should mainly target theme customisations and not basic functionality. The first should just empower/enable the community creating a full functional ad system. Having one look around in ad 'world' shows what is really missing...

However, I think a LOT is already in place and there is not THAT much more we could wish for regarding the whole ad system.

[design]

I think the new ideas have leaned towards fix/update the old first.

please fix some of the most used plugins also, I believe that would be the biggest "bitch" in the forum.

about uservoice, I have seen some wants that have a lot of votes that are not implemented, so I don't go there anymore for any reason above~~~results skewed, ages out etc

[Aficionado]

if you where in the forums more often you would know   
trying to be constructive. the core, and bender should already be packed with everything and in working condition. that being said we are the ones who beta test for you and we missed some things obviously.

Well you can't do everything, program of Osclass, read the forums, reply, etc etc.

This is understandable. Osclass team is small and does its best. No questions about it.

[Aficionado]

Hi Daniel,

I will be happily review and switch to any other (free) service/software. We reviewed 4-5 services at the time and choose it as the best of them.

I think most users would like to stay in one place.... the forums. To be honest I think OsClass team needs a vision regarding the roadmap of OsClass, if you are not 'the boss' who is pulling the wagon?

There should be the "OsClass road to heaven" ( ) and there are users having wishes which should mainly target theme customisations and not basic functionality. The first should just empower/enable the community creating a full functional ad system. Having one look around in ad 'world' shows what is really missing...

However, I think a LOT is already in place and there is not THAT much more we could wish for regarding the whole ad system.

I have posted that also before.

Forcing people to use 2-3 different services for one script is not good. I do understand that bugs could be reported to Github but Uservoice is not needed.

[SmaRTeY]

Topics in the "suggestions" sub-board had a lifespan of 10 days, after 10 days, they were pushed to the second page, were they got way less visibility.

This is where "the boss" comes in, he/she keeps track of wishes, filters out wishes that are out of scope and focusses on bugs and prioritises the changes for the new release. Planning needs to be no longer than two months ahead, quality fixes ALWAYS preveal new code. Create one big 'backlog'  based on what is mentioned in the forums and create a backlog to work on the coming period.

 

[Aficionado]

Two things i learned from this thread.

1. That Osclass 3.3.2 actually supports predefined expiration dates (to be selected by the users) but for some reason there is no information about it (howto) and also it was not included even at bender theme. So please somebody start a thread or blog about it.

2. That some obscure "description" code was not used (for unknown reason) in all themes, but is it there and maybe could improve SEO. Some information was given, still unclear the "howto" for all of us webmasters (and not programmers).

 

[osCanyon]

@Aficionado, Im not sure what infrastructure you belong to but most of belong the WWW and SEO experts Do exist, Google is god of whats allowed and whats not, so experts are needed to keep up with rules and regulations so as not to get the Google god mad at you and take your money and remove you from the PR list, in fact your saying your an "expert" by claiming that SEO experts dont exist
JMHO

[Aficionado]

@Aficionado, Im not sure what infrastructure you belong to but most of belong the WWW and SEO experts Do exist, Google is god of whats allowed and whats not, so experts are needed to keep up with rules and regulations so as not to get the Google god mad at you and take your money and remove you from the PR list, in fact your saying your an "expert" by claiming that SEO experts dont exist
JMHO

SEO "experts" do not exist, they just take your money. If you care to read what i wrote (instead of jumping to conclusions about me), you will see that i said "Google has implemented all the SEO it needs to Google Blogs".

As to your question about who i'm, i don't really see the point to publish my bio. Let's say i'm an old professional in the hosting business and now an experienced webmaster, making half of his living from google adsense.

If you have any more questions about me, pm me. I can even send you a photo of me, if curious about it.

Also a question for you: If SEO is important as you say, WHY don't you PUSH to be improved to Osclass, instead of uselessly commenting ...

[osCanyon]

I disagree with you, SEO is an art and Someone needs to know the game or we wouldnt have all these plugins and people that design around being SEO friendly.
if you say you make 1/2 your income from Google then you know the tricks, the schemes and the right way to do it, That makes you an expert ! 

maybe we got off on the wrong foot...
yes there are those 'so called' experts that just take money but the real ones like you and others who have valuable insight must have learned the hard way, Im sure we could benefit from your experience

[Aficionado]

I disagree with you, SEO is an art and Someone needs to know the game or we wouldnt have all these plugins and people that design around being SEO friendly.
if you say you make 1/2 your income from Google then you know the tricks, the schemes and the right way to do it, That makes you an expert ! 

I just follow the rules of Google in general. Nothing else. No magic, no tricks. But with Osclass i just can't do that fully. For example i can't have proper Page Titles as i want, and page titles are STILL the most important thing for Google.

Google has found ALL THE TRICKS from the past and plugged all the holes. And most of the people that hired SEO "Experts" for their needs, now have lost all or almost all of their ranking in Google. Simple as that.

Also i'm talking here about Osclass ONPAGE Seo. Off page SEO is something else.

[SmaRTeY]

Search Engine........ optimisation
So what ART is there in applying search engine rules that happen to be created by search engine owners???

No art, no expertise but reading what the three most influent search engines order us to do to come up as high as possible in their search results without having to pay for it! THAT is all there is to SEO or just buy your top ranking...

There is ofcourse something like a strategy which is more a marketing trade than simply following the most common on page 'rules'.

[Aficionado]

Search Engine........ optimisation
So what ART is there in applying search engine rules that happen to be created by search engine owners???

No art, no expertise but reading what the three most influent search engines order us to do to come up as high as possible in their search results without having to pay for it! THAT is all there is to SEO or just buy your top ranking...

There is ofcourse something like a strategy which is more a marketing trade than simply following the most common on page 'rules'.

There is no ART. At least not any more. Google has destroyed the whatever SEO market there was. The last 2 years Google has changed the rules of SEO and many many websites have been destroyed.

But again we talk about ON PAGE Osclass SEO. Pretty basic.

[s51]

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@Aficionado

Being so omniscient as you - are a total nuisance,,,
and recalling exactly what put e.g. Greece deeply in screwed bad faith.
1.)
Your SEO assertions cries to heaven,
and the way you communicate with with people who do not share your opinion, - also.
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2.)
Why do you not just pull $10,000,- out of your pocket,
and have written a special software, to meet all your needs ?
so all of us here could get free to hear all your complaints, - how bad Osclass is.
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JUST 3 SEO FACTS:
#1
The Google goal - is in 2014 or latest start 2015 that *all* searches must be ORGANIC
which means the possibility to get arriving users keyword data is lost from Google search.
BUT:
There are still plenty detours to scoring TACTICAL SEO - it just gets harder than before,
so when you screaming SEO is dead and unnecessary, - it is definitely not true at all,
* Just like _CONEJO says
* Osclass really need an SEO expert who can figure out the coming requirements
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#2
Google page ranks were largely not updated through 2013, once in spring and once before Christmas,
and if Google shuts off this data flow entirely, - then their next step clearly becomes the new
Google algorithm = Hummingbird as is a kind of built a capability to understand conversational,
(words from users) search queries 10x times better than before,
So if you are so smart, that you through Google blogs know how it will work,
then please let the rest of the world know - but again:
* Just like _CONEJO says
* Osclass really need an SEO expert who can figure out the coming requirements
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#3
In the blue-print to future organic SEO, - Google mentions a lot about e.g.:
Google+ / Authorships / In depth articles / Word patterns / etc. etc. etc.
but not a single place, - how the future look __ in the transition __ to ORGANIC text & search words,
and through this, a higher future pagerank - for what I know, Google has not said Buh ot Boh,
if they have final decided to launch a new algorithm, so once more:
* It,s like _CONEJO say:
* Osclass really need an SEO expert who can figure out the coming requirements
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Regards./ s51

PS:
This is not a proposal for further debate = it's just a stand alone statement from me.   
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